tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post1199395300885103060..comments2024-02-23T09:04:50.117+00:00Comments on Alice Bell: Science is cool? Considering the "evidence"Alicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12498653879153240121noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post-63743324880801599412012-01-31T21:25:09.436+00:002012-01-31T21:25:09.436+00:00This is great achievement and great creativeness.....This is great achievement and great creativeness...personal loan rateshttp://commercialloan-rates.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post-6918874557635334832010-04-29T20:58:03.059+01:002010-04-29T20:58:03.059+01:00Just wanted to say hi and that I'm glad you co...Just wanted to say hi and that I'm glad you commented on my blog which led me to finding your wonderful blog! This is really interesting and I'm looking forward to exploring more (and yay for your knitting blog too! I think we have a lot in common :D )Christinahttp://scienceblogs.com/oscillatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post-2692791022905458402010-04-27T11:59:29.971+01:002010-04-27T11:59:29.971+01:00Looks as though it wasn't Mike Kenward, after ...Looks as though it wasn't Mike Kenward, after all, but one of his successors at <i>New Scientist</i>, Alun [sic] Anderson. So says<br /><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/hellochris/398459251/" rel="nofollow">Flickr contributor hellochris</a>.Chris Stokeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14317230974046484172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post-20171049933894046362010-04-22T15:36:17.551+01:002010-04-22T15:36:17.551+01:00Chris - I would *love* to have a vid of the origin...Chris - I would *love* to have a vid of the original utterance of that phrase :)Alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12498653879153240121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post-1895244947940453492010-04-22T13:08:34.159+01:002010-04-22T13:08:34.159+01:00"That Tyson pre-context to the quote is AMAZI..."That Tyson pre-context to the quote is AMAZING"<br /><br />Knew you'd love it. If only he'd swore when saying it, then the focus would be in the other direction.Scott Khttp://blogs.nature.com/scottkeir/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post-34605939786128682452010-04-22T12:31:16.519+01:002010-04-22T12:31:16.519+01:00Would the former editor whom Dawkins attributes hi...Would the former editor whom Dawkins attributes his quote to be Mike Kenward OBE?Chris Stokeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14317230974046484172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post-12968200691892910152010-04-21T08:28:18.170+01:002010-04-21T08:28:18.170+01:00Hi Anonymous!
Thanks SOOO much for the spelling a...Hi Anonymous!<br /><br />Thanks SOOO much for the spelling advice. I've tried to correct it, unless I've missed another instance where I can't find it.<br /><br />You might well expect more from "a lecturer in science communication" though I should stress I teach on the theoretical elements of the course - I don't pretend to tell anyone how to write.<br /><br />I'm also dyslexic. It's not a lack of understanding over meaning, it's a phonological processing issue. So, thanks. Crowd-edits of my blogposts are always appreciated as I need all the help I can get! (nb: I do actually mean that, not being sarcastic here).<br /><br />You are welcome to take my dyslexia as a sign of stupidity. I'll return the sentiment.<br /><br />Personally I expect a more substantiate point from someone who'd bother to leave a comment, though I suppose not from someone who remains anonymous.<br /><br /><br />AliceAlicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12498653879153240121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post-21155614513830150382010-04-21T02:19:50.701+01:002010-04-21T02:19:50.701+01:00I believe you mean "central tenet", not ...I believe you mean "central tenet", not "central tenant".<br /><br />I would've expected better from a lecturer in science communication. Probably best to avoid use cliched phrases if you don't know exactly what they mean.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post-83400298400288450542010-04-20T19:45:37.575+01:002010-04-20T19:45:37.575+01:00Ed,
Great comment! Wish I could have put it so w...Ed, <br /><br />Great comment! Wish I could have put it so well. I agree, to be honest, I don't really like the words "nerd" and "geek" I've only used them as useful shorthand (a bit like "web2.0"...)Alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12498653879153240121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post-7945157677606307532010-04-20T19:41:11.705+01:002010-04-20T19:41:11.705+01:00Anonymous - thanks for the spelling correction, I&...Anonymous - thanks for the spelling correction, I'll edit it.<br /><br />Scott's already provided the link to the vid with context, though I did already know he was re-quoting. What I said was "the famous youtube clip of Richard Dawkins saying..." which I think is accurate. I'll add an edit to the bottom though in case anyone else worries as you have.Alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12498653879153240121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post-6205685492527906722010-04-20T19:09:57.775+01:002010-04-20T19:09:57.775+01:00It's t-e-n-e-t, pet, not "tenant".It's t-e-n-e-t, pet, not "tenant".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post-58936465800670389622010-04-20T18:35:42.520+01:002010-04-20T18:35:42.520+01:00Dawkins didn't say '... fuck off' - he...Dawkins didn't say '... fuck off' - he was quoting someone else. He was also putting it in the context of 'if you think I'm bad then listen to this!'. <br /><br />How you'd portrayed the quote is completely wrong, and should probably be rectified.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post-79174318828791012682010-04-20T11:21:16.156+01:002010-04-20T11:21:16.156+01:00Nice!
My favourite paragraph was the one on cultu...Nice!<br /><br />My favourite paragraph was the one on cultural identity. Do we really need science to be cool in order for the public to take an interest in it? Or rather, do we need nerds to be cool for science to be cool? I hope not.<br /><br />Cool doesn't last long. So if recognition by trendsetters and the people who follow them is a victory for science, it'll be a short lived one.<br /><br />I'm all for celebratory nerdship. But I never needed for it to be reforged as some badge of cool for permission to revel in it. Most genuine rank-and-file geeks are not just indifferent to 'cool', they actively despise it. The superficial and transient imperatives of cool's commercial arm, fashion, are (or least were) anathema to the qualities that geeks hold most dear: depth and permanence (or, rather, tradition).<br /><br />This isn't a judgement about nerds who want to be cool (or those who are cool who want to be nerds), but an observation of the dangers of branding science too narrowly. If we redefine science as a cultural brand for cool kids, or geeks, or atheists, or French intellectuals, we risk excluding large numbers of people from feeling they too are allowed to identify with it as a way of thinking.<br /><br />We're never going to convert the public to a monolith of cool, geeky, atheist, French intellectuals. And surely we don't want to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post-6600444769954497932010-04-20T00:15:06.967+01:002010-04-20T00:15:06.967+01:00Scott: they didn't get redpenned. Or rather th...Scott: they didn't get redpenned. Or rather they did, but by me. Maybe I should have replaced the web2.0 paragraphs with them seeing as they were misrepresented.<br /><br />That Tyson pre-context to the quote is AMAZING "you're the professor for the public understanding of science, not professor for delivering truth to the public [...] it's the facts plus the sensitivity that creates impact"<br /><br />Brilliant.Alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12498653879153240121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2975702886795027550.post-19801387220206992282010-04-20T00:07:40.319+01:002010-04-20T00:07:40.319+01:00I love the last two paragraphs - shame they got re...I love the last two paragraphs - shame they got redpenned. <br /><br />"Say this is awesome because." - in which case, you're on the side of Neil Tyson in this clip, which puts Dawkins "Fuck off" in context: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_2xGIwQfikScott Khttp://blogs.nature.com/scottkeir/noreply@blogger.com